TRMN Email Discussion List FAQ

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The TRMN mailing list is an official mailing list that allows members of The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association, Inc. and its subgroups to more easily exchange ideas and information about issues affecting The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association, Inc. and its members. TRMN operates under the authority of the First Lord of the Admiralty, and of the list owner and moderator(s).

TRMN is owned and operated by the Bureau of Communications (BuComm), and is administered by the Fourth Space Lord and his/her designees.

A. Subscription instructions
B. Contact information
C. Purpose
D. How to post
E. To post or not to post
F. Replies, follow-ups, quoting
G. When things go wrong
H. Other sources of info
I. What not to do
J. What did we miss?

A. Subscription instructions
To subscribe or unsubscribe to TRMN, visit the following website: http://lists.trmn.org/listinfo.cgi/trmn-trmn.org

Enter your E-mail address in the box under Subscribing to TRMN, and enter a password, decide if you would like regular mail delivery, or digest mode (if you would like digest mode, then click the radio button next to Yes), and click Subscribe. You will then be e-mailed a confirmation code. Follow the directions in the Confirmation E-mail to finish subscribing to the list.

PLEASE try and post under the address you are subscribed too. You can subscribe more than one email address (just ensure that your secondary addresses do not receive mail, otherwise, you will end up with duplicate posts.) If you have any problems, write to the Fourth Space Lord at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

B. Contact information
The TRMN list owner is the current Fourth Space Lord. The list moderator is also the current Fourth Space Lord. Your first contact for most issues or questions regarding the list should always be the Fourth Space Lord at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

C. Purpose
The TRMN mailing list is an official mailing list that allows members of The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association, Inc. to more easily exchange ideas and information about issues affecting The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association, Inc. TRMN operates under the authority of the First Lord of the Admiralty and the list owner and moderator(s).

Announcements of upcoming ship/unit, Task Force, Task Group, and Joint Fleet events are absolutely welcome, as well as discussion about issues facing ships/units, Task Forces, Task Groups, and Joint Fleets or individual members. Messages of thanks or praise are appreciated; messages of complaint are not, though constructive criticism will often be welcomed by individuals or the Admiralty when e-mailed directly.

The authority of the list owner and moderators on TRMN is absolute; THE LIST IS NOT A DEMOCRACY. You are encouraged to adhere to the guidelines set forth in this FAQ and to requests made by the moderator on the list itself. Membership to TRMN is NOT a right. Failing to abide by the guidelines in this FAQ will be met with a warning, suspension, or expulsion, depending on the severity or frequency of the problem, at the list administrations discretion. Continued violations of these rules, or of requests of the list admin will result in moderation or suspension.

D. How to post
To post a message to TRMN:

Send e-mail to This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Thats the short form.

Here are other considerations:

Try to use a meaningful subject line. Try and use a descriptive subject such as "What is the tonnage of a pod dreadnaught?" or "Task Group annual meeting"

You should sign each post to TRMN with, at a minimum, your name and e-mail address. Try to keep signature blocks around five or six lines.

This is a closed list, so you can only post from the e-mail address at which you are subscribed. Posts from any other address will fall into my "bounce" mailbox for me to approve. If I do not recognize your name, I won't approve it and will send it back, or delete it. Save me time and trouble: post a message under the address you are subscribed under!

Do not use styled text on TRMN. Not every member of the list uses a mail client that can see the stylized text, and your message will be garbled to them. If you do not know how to turn off styled text in your mail client, please ask us for help. We have FAQs available upon request for a variety of popular mail clients. This includes posting in HTML.

File attachments are absolutely forbidden on TRMN. This includes embedded pictures in you signature, as well as the business cards that some E-mail clients include. Its fine to offer the availability of a file to those who reply privately that they'd like a copy sent individually, but files are NOT to be sent to the list.

If you receive digests from the list and want to reply to a post, please trim your reply down to only the post to which you want to reply.

E. To post or not to post
Think before you post to the list. You are about to share your words with hundreds of people. If you are mad when you write your message, hold onto it for a few hours before posting, and then look at it again. You may discover you need to reword it... or just delete it unsent.

Check the section on "What not to do" for additional guidelines.

F. Replies, follow-ups, quoting
Think before you post a follow-up message. Does the list need to see your reply, or should it go only to the one person who posted the message to which you are replying?

Follow-up messages of condolences, congratulations, thanks, get-well wishes, and the like should be sent privately.

If you decide to send a private reply, please carefully check to make sure your message is addressed only to that persons private e-mail address, not to the list.

If you are going to send a follow-up post to the list, quote the message to which you are replying, but do so sparingly.

G. When things go wrong
If you believe there is something wrong with the TRMN mailing list, DO NOT under any circumstances post a message to the list expressing your concern. If there is actually something wrong, your post may exacerbate the problem, and at best will be ineffective at solving it. Instead contact lists administrators whose direct e-mail addresses are available in the section "Contact information."

If theres nothing wrong with the mailing list, but you have a complaint about something that someone has posted, please direct your comments to the list moderators. Most of TRMNs moderation activity goes on behind the scenes, via private messages among the moderators and those who have done something wrong. Its possible that the moderators have already dealt with the issue you feel is worth a complaint, but its also possible that we have not , so your comments, worded politely and in private, are always welcome.

Please consider unsubscribing from TRMN if you know in advance that your e-mail address is going to become unreachable, either permanently, or for a short period of time. If messages to you bounce repeatedly, you will be automatically unsubscribed from the list without prior notice.

To unsubscribe from the list write This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. a message whose Subject says UNSUBSCRIBE.

Or you can go here http://lists.trmn.org/listinfo.cgi/trmn-trmn.org and at the bottom of the page is an area where a subscriber can manager their subscription.

H. Other sources of info

Information on The Royal Manticoran Navy: The Official Honor Harrington Fan Association, Inc. may be found here:
http://www.trmn.org/

I. What *NOT* to do
If you have any questions, or are not sure whether something you are about to post violates the guidelines, by all means ask.

Note that the following is not an exhaustive list of rules, and are subject to change at any time by the list admins.

No flames or other acts that disrupt the even flow of discussion on the list.

No profanity. There are minors on the list, so act accordingly. Decisions as to what constitutes profanity shall be made by the List Admin

No forwarding private mail. This is absolute! Messages sent to you privately are not to be shared with the list and/or made public without the permission of the author. The same applies for messages from limited-access mailing lists.

No forwarding messages to the list for non-subscribers. If someone asks you to share their thoughts with the list, ask them to contact a list moderator. Well post their message for them if we think its appropriate.

No posting copyrighted material without permission. This includes newspaper articles. If you ask, you may find that the newspaper or writer is happy to have you share the material. Ask. Links to stories are always welcome.

No excessive quoting. Really make an effort to trim those quotes, Quote four or five lines of the post you are replying to. If you have more than on point to answer, then of course you may quote the relevant lines for that point also. Do NOT quote the previous post in full, either at the beginning or end of your post.

No unmarked spoilers. Provide spoiler warnings in subject line, and 20 lines of space before your text, if your post contains info that could be considered a spoiler.

Limit congratulations messages to the list. These should be sent privately, with the e-mail contact for the person sent in the original post. This also holds for condolence e-mails.

No chain letters. A chain letter is any message that urges you to pass it along to others. If in doubt, please contact the list admin for clarification.

No test messages. If the operation of the list needs to be tested for some reason, one of the list admins will do so. If you feel theres a problem we do not know about, please let us know via private e-mail.

No advertising or sales pitches, whether to promote something that would benefit you, a friend, or an unrelated company. We make exceptions for chapter fundraisers and the like, but please ask for permission before posting such messages.

No "me too" posts. Do not bother posting a reply to the list unless you have something to add to the discussion.

No unauthorized personal paging. If you have a need to page someone, please contact the list admin for approval.

Limit signature blocks to six lines, including all information, decorations, quotations, and blank lines.

Do not post replies to the list when your message is meant for just the original poster. Send them privately.

No attached files, styled text, and/or HTML encoding.

Criticism of the way the list is being run, including suggestions on what the List Admins should or should not do. Suggestions are welcome, but are to be done in private.

No polls of any kind, unless approved beforehand by BuComm.

J. What did we miss?
This document is not perfect, and as it has evolved before, it will evolve again. Please send comments or suggestions to the List Admin Admiral of the Red Sean Niemeyer at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.

Last updated: 11 February, 2012

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